The friendship between former President Barack Obama and Bruce Springsteen is well-documented—they’re vacation buddies, after all—and now the two have joined forces for a new podcast. Renegades: Born in the USA debuted exclusively on Spotify on February 22, with its first two episodes coming out jointly.
The show itself is culled from long conversations the two had over several days at Springsteen’s farmhouse. It takes its name from Springsteen’s 1984 single and 15-times platinum album Born in the U.S.A.
In the series premiere, the pair specifically discuss how their friendship was forged and the commonalities of life as an artist and a politician.
“In the same way that a musician is looking for a way to channel and work through pain, demons, personal questions, that was certainly true for me in terms of getting into public life,” President Obama explained.
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